Packpoker

19Nov08

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I’ve started a weblog about poker. It’s meant to be a place where amateur players can share their wins, beats & bluffs in an effort to learn from each other and better our game. Check it out & share some of your stories:

http://packpoker.wordpress.com


Poker 101

19Nov08

2:54 PM me: You’ll become a professional poker player with me?

All we need to do is place once in one of the WSOP tours, and we’re set to be pro.
2:55 PM djtheory: i was watching poker last night
me: the World Series one?
(only one worth watching)
ESPN/ESPN2
djtheory: you really think that these guys are pros?
aren’t they mostly just lucky?
me: No, a lot of them are.
A lot of them though, are emerging pros.
2:56 PM They play for a week in that tournament, the lucky ones die out after a few days.
I don’t deny it takes a little luck, but too many times, those who make the chase have done so many times before.
chase = money
whoa, big mistake :)
djtheory: lol
2:57 PM so what does it take to be a pro?
just knowing the math?
i mean, even being a pro just means you are lucky
lol
i mean, i’ve seen the movies
me: No, achievement with experience. If you earn enough money to not “work” for 5 years, I think you’re a pro then :)
djtheory: i’ve watched the series
i know there is skill involved
me: Here’s an example.
2:58 PM A pro will slow play pocket kings. An amateur will go all in and get beat by an Ace on the board.
No hand is an auto win, not even pocket aces.
2:59 PM You have to also take into account those who are still in (not folded) and what your position is on the board (how many are left to call or raise behind you) depending on your hand.
3:00 PM djtheory: ok
so, let’s do it
can’t be that hard, right?
i mean, we are intelligent people
it’s a mind game
actually, i have a game tonight
let’s see if i can’t win it
me: Example, last night, someone had A/K and there was only $75 in blinds out there. His $5,000 bet kept him from getting any more blinds. That’s a waste of high cards.
3:01 PM I have a game tonight too. Are you serious?
djtheory: becoming poker pros?
i mean, what would it take?
playing online
practice
learning the cards, the numbers
practice more
me: That’s why I’ve been writing the Poker Tales things, to look back and see what I did right and wrong.
djtheory: playing in any game you can
me: nooo… i can’t do online.
I need to read people.
3:02 PM you can’t put a price on people’s tales.
“tells”?
3:03 PM As soon as I continue dominating these local games, I’ll take my money to Louisville and enter a big tournament.
Actually, this coming week we have two huge pot guarantees. first a $4,000 one and then a $2,000 one.
I’ll be in those.
3:04 PM It was awesome last night, some guy came in from the Monitcello clubs and started cussing out Jack. A lot of us stood up and then he started attacking Blaine. There’s 40 guys in there and this one guy thinks he’s going to do something. I just laughed :)
djtheory: i dont know these people
lol
3:05 PM but i get what you’re saying
me: Let’s just say, his body wouldn’t have been found. It’s not a tourist joint, this is a bunch of manly men, blue collar guys :)
3:06 PM djtheory: and then there was wade…
me: ha
djtheory: so, how long have you been playing?
poker?
me: Since I got up here seriously, but before that, casually.
never for money or in tournaments until I got up here in Feb.
3:07 PM But my dad had educated me during my childhood with blackjack and what not.
I’ve always had a mathematical/logical mind.
You have to get it out of your head that any hand is guaranteed and if the circumstances are right, play a 7/4.
3:08 PM if someone can’t rebuy and they have 1,000 left with 200 blinds, a simple 600 bid will push him out.
easier to bluff that way.
3:09 PM when there are rebuys, you have to be careful, because people with deep pockets will play anything and then you get screwed.
that’s when you have to know the people you’re up against.
3:10 PM djtheory: hmmmmm
very interesting…
i never REALLY considered it
me: If you’ve seen the movie Rounders, he makes a good point when justifying poker playing to his girlfriend. There’s a reason you see the same people at the final table (or cashing in) every year. It’s not just luck.
djtheory: i toyed with the idea in my mind
3:11 PM me: I wouldn’t do it online. Find some poker games around htere.
there.
3:12 PM djtheory: yeah, but you can get good experience playing online
me: 4 hours for $250 (that was a small pot that night), is almost $60 an hour.
djtheory: i know it’s not face to face, but it’s good nontheless
you can find a game anytime
me: oh, i agree, but people with fake chips don’t play the same.
djtheory: i know i know
everybody goes all in
me: yeah
the best you can do is build your patience on websites :)
and it does take patience.
3:13 PM I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard, “Whatever, I’m ready to go home” and then they go all in.
with nothing.
djtheory: lol
me: But you said you’re playing tonight?
djtheory: the thing is, the good players dont bet regular
they bet sneaky
3:14 PM they’ll call on the flop with 2 pair
and then make a small raise on the turn
and then go double that on the river
me: Agreed, but they mix it up too. You can’t always slow play pocket whatever. You have to see who is left in the pot.
djtheory: so you dont know what they have
me: Sometimes your straight gets beat by a flush on the river. You have to prevent them from seeing the river.
djtheory: it’s just practice really
3:15 PM i think
if you play enough, and read a book here and there, you’ll learn the game quick
me: never read a book.
i know the theories.
djtheory: well i dont
3:16 PM me: if you have a small pocket pair and everyone is calling a raise, you’re in the benefit because most likely they have 10+ in their hands, leaving lower cards for the community cards.
just one of the theories.
djtheory: yeah
i know what i do wrong, mostly
i play my cards
i dont play my opponents
i dont pay attention to their betting
i mean, i do
3:17 PM me: (sorry, my ride is here. i’ll email or call you later)
djtheory: but instead of thinking, “ohhh, i have this, this is good,” I should be thinking, “I wonder what he has…”
i should be trying to put myself in their shoes

djtheory: ok, so as it turns out, starting hands aren’t that complicated
me: Nice name, nice girl.
djtheory: you have your 13 types of pairs
me: (keep going)
djtheory: then 78 types of suided non-pairs
me: (connectors)
djtheory: and 78 types of non-suited non-pairs
4:10 PM for a total of 169 different hands
me: you can’t count cards in texas holdem, so what are you getting at?
too many unseen cards.
4:11 PM however, if a lot of people are in (6 or more) you can count on lower cards hitting the community.
unless they’re holding pocket 2’s, 6’s, etc…
4:12 PM (waiting for your point’s conclusion)
4:13 PM djtheory: my point is, it’s not that complicated
i have to start from the ground floor man
and build from there
me: it is when you throw luck and careless card players into the mix.
like last night.
I went all in with A/9 and the guy who called had A/10.
4:14 PM I paid a 9 on the board and won.
paid = paired
djtheory: nice
me: it doesn’t matter what’s in your hand. The goal is to get to see the flop for cheap (or free).
djtheory: what is your overall strategy?
me: and then figure out how many outs you have.
djtheory: play few hands and go big on the hands you do play?
4:15 PM me: if i have a big hand before flop and everyone has called (position), i raise.
djtheory: or “see the flop”
me: if i’m third to call with a big hand and there’s 10 at the table, i just call and let the pot build to make more money with my big hand.
djtheory: ok
me: play a lot of early hands with the blinds are low, that way you get in cheap and can possibly take a few with little invested.
4:16 PM as the blinds go up, your play should change accordingly.
djtheory: do you ever bluff?
me: occasionally.
it’s usually when i have more chips than anyone else though. you can use your stack to push people around.
4:17 PM but the key to bluffing is the amount of your bets.
djtheory: do you have a general rule?
like a percentage?
me: on a $1,000 pot, you can’t bluff with $200. At least do half the pot and make sure that the bluff raise will put the opponent in a bad position if he loses.
djtheory: like if you are much bigger than them, bet half their stack kinda thing
4:18 PM me: Not an EXACT science, but you judge according to his stack and how they’ve played before.
If there’s rebuys and he has deep pockets, you don’t want to bluff.
4:19 PM Once there are no more rebuys, the game changes dramatically. People are more predictable.
djtheory: we usually play 2 rebuys
me: then keep count on if they’ve already made their last rebuy and also feel them out to see if they really don’t care or not.
djtheory: and you rebuy what you started with
4:20 PM me: like the guy last night, there are people there who don’t have the patience and don’t mind going home, so you don’t want to bluff them.
bluffing should be used rarely and only with one on one or one on two situations.
4:21 PM ARe you playing a home game tonight?
djtheory: yeah
no big deal
low buyin
low pot
just for fun really
me: what’s low?
djtheory: $10 buyin
me: well, like you said. good practice.
djtheory: 5 or 6 people
exactly
me: have you ever won these home games?
and are you guys drinking?
4:22 PM That’s one factor I don’t have to worry about, being in a dry county and all :)
4:23 PM djtheory: i won once
i fold a lot
me: that’s good.
djtheory: i only play with a strong hand, or if i can see the flop cheap
me: you’ll do that in tournaments, especially with 10 people at the table.
good rule of thumb
4:24 PM what time is your game?
maybe we can call each other with updates ;0
djtheory: haha
7
me: 8 for me
4:25 PM if i win, i’ll go to midnight
djtheory: nice
well, i won 2 out of 6 or 7 times playing
so that’s not too bad
i’m not hesitant to go all in with a good hand
so sometimes i get burned
but sometimes i win big
me: as long as you’re getting more money then you’re putting in, yup
djtheory: all how the cards fall i guess
me: well, you’re always going to lose a “sure” thing here and there.
djtheory: usually alcohol plays a major factor in my gameplay
4:26 PM in fact, i’ve never played a whole game sober lol
me: i went up against a woman who had a full house on the flop. I got runner, runner 10’s to give me quads :)
The table exploded :)
4:27 PM to help my bluffing, i’ll usually show when i win big (and legit). but i never show my bluffing hands.
djtheory: haha
me: that way they know i’m not always BSing
djtheory: i never bluff
and i hate when the opportunity arises and i dont
me: then you’re an easy read
djtheory: you know, when a bad card turns and everybody checks quick
i HATE it
4:28 PM i always pass
me: checking quick and sometimes mean someone is slow playing.
sometimes you have to raise a small amount to get rid of the ones who are bluffing or have nothing or who are trying to catch something on the river.
4:29 PM If there’s 3 of one suit on the board and you have something that won’t be a flush, you have to make a decent raise so that they fold and don’t get the flush on the river.
(or if there’s two of the same suit on the flop, keep them from seeing the turn, again… only when you have something on the flop)
4:30 PM djtheory: here’s what i’ll do
it’s cheap, so it’s no big deal
i’ll play very aggressively today
and if i lose, i just rebuy and play normal
me: do you guys raise blinds?
4:31 PM either way, good strategy.
djtheory: yeah
every 15 or 30 minutes
me: heh, ours are every 10 minutes.
sucks
djtheory: it’s good though
hastens the game, especially if you have people who dont go allin often
4:32 PM me: yeah, you just have to wait those people out. they’ll usually bust and not buy in any more.
djtheory: what do you think is more powerful, the all-in bet, or the very very large bet?
me: i usually let others take each other out and sit back and wait til those kind of players are gone.
djtheory: haha
4:33 PM me: usually the large bet. but never more than half your chips or else it’s an easy reraise (to put you all in) if they do have something.
but you have to be able to fold if they re-raise your large bet.
that’s tough to do for most.
djtheory: i like to put people all-in early, especially if i have a winner on the flop
i’ve been burned too often milking people along
4:34 PM me: THERE’S NO WINNER ON THE FLOP WITH THE TURN AND RIVER COMING :p
djtheory: so if i turn top pair with a high kicker, i’ll go big
me: usually works, just saying though.
If you flop top pair with a 3 on the board, a pocket pair of 3’s will take down your top pair.
4:35 PM djtheory: yes, but that is extremely rare 1
and 2, you’re right…i guess i’d have to see how they bet
me: play the odds, I agree… for the most part.
djtheory: those are the sneaky ones
i’ve had those hands that nobody sees
the pocket pair that flops your 3 of a kind
4:36 PM me: happens more often than you think. that’s why i wait for my top pair to get a little better.
most times.
4:37 PM The top pair with the possibility of a straight, flush, etc…
the more outs for you, the better, even when you think you have it won.
djtheory: i just figure, people have high cards
me: I’ll fold top pair if they bet big and I have no other outs.
djtheory: if they stay in
4:38 PM especially if blinds were raised
me: true
djtheory: so i dont want my top pair, which let’s say is lower than a 10, to be trumped later by a high card
me: If I win one of these upcoming $4,000 or $2,000 tournaments, I’m booking a trip to play cards and basketball with you :)
4:39 PM There’s a $10,000 one that I should be in come June.
4:40 PM all tax free :)
(underground clubs, I love them :) )

Google It

19Nov08

Incase you don’t know, there are websites to remind you.

http://www.JustFuckingGoogleIt.com/

http://LetMeGoogleThatForYou.com/

So stop asking the rest of us stupid questions that can be easily found.


The Waterdrop

19Nov08

waterdrop

Photo credit: Unknown


Poker Tales II

19Nov08

58725418v31_150x150_front_There was a pot of $600 tonight, built from a gathering of 34 players. With just $10 invested, I took an occasional pot to put me at $1,000 chips after 1 hour and 30 minutes which led us to the break. After the break, the blinds are $100/$200, so I had 5 big blinds to make a move with. My father threw me $20 (I paid him back) to go make a rebuy for the break, because everyone had stacks of at least $5,000. I wouldn’t have lasted long otherwise. So with $6,000 in chips, I started the second half of the tournament.

I caught a run of good cards, a little luck and the occasional bluff, which paid off. Position and betting amounts were key, as I built my stack to just over $50,000. Two hours later, I made the final table and took down 3 players, while maintaining a healthy 2nd/3rd place stack.
Three of us left, I raised $10,000 before the flop and the small stack moved all in. I called. I flipped over A/9, he flipped over A/10. The flop came with a 9 on the board. The turn & river didn’t help him, knocking him out of the tournament.
After that takedown, Patty & I were about even with chips, so we decided to split the pot. We both walked away with $250 and tipped the dealer $25.
With wins like this, Julie calls poker my “second job.:)

Reason 2621 Why I Love the Internet: Its “Dark” humor.

zoolander

was mixed into this

dark-knightlander


csection


undisputable-proof

…now shut up :)


POTUS Envy

17Nov08

As always, he saves the best for last.


The “new minutes” son’s reaction at the end is priceless.

If it doesn’t play, go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmIj7_0-1kg



Congrats Lance!


These two guys saw the economic crisis coming and they never backed down from telling the American people and its leadership of talking TV heads.

Let’s hope the U.S. continues its move toward change and guys like these get more recognition & respect. Roles as advisers to the Obama administration would be a nice start.

Oh and here’s a quick recap…

how_the_shit_went_down


Wow. Just wow.

presidential-shocker

For those who don’t know, The Shocker is a sexual term that carries the tagline, “Two in the pink, one in the stink.

As I understand it, they threw the sign for Arizona State University’s track team, but someone on Dubya’s PR team should have known better.


measuring-cup

You can buy it at Amazon: Fred Equal Measuring Cup